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Excerpt from interview.....
Rhonda Anderson --- "Is that an angel pin on your jacket"?
Bernie --- "There is a lot of story behind
this pin in terms of the first one we received was from Robert Young; some of
the things we had done had helped him…………….but recently I don't know
if it came out of my own head or if I read it somewhere ……..you know I don't
know anymore. (smiling, he continues ) I was in heaven at a meeting I saw an angel with one
wing and I said "you are an angel why don't you get repaired?"
He said "but I don't have any trouble flying." I
said "How can you fly with one wing you would go flopping in circles?"
He said "oh yeah watch this!" He walked over to another angel with one
wing they put their arms around each other and they flew off with no trouble.
Rhonda --- "Oh, I like that story, that is nice! I also
love the story."
Bernie (interjecting) --- "And it is a true story!"
Rhonda --- "I believe! I believe you."
Bernie --- "Alright"
Rhonda --- "Because you have talked about your
guide
George."
Bernie --- "yeah, yeah."
Rhonda --- "Will you share that with us?"
Bernie---"Yeah, I don't mind, I write less about that
because it is so much a part of my life. The first time I was asked to do
imagery I was at a weekend workshop, the person leading it said "I will now
take you through guided imagery" and I thought "this is crazy so I
won't close my eyes" but I was in the front row and the physician named Simonton
leading the workshop was looking straight at me so I thought Ooh I
can't just sit here so I closed my eyes. I did not have the courage you see.
.now when I lead workshops and someone sits and stares back at me I think there
is a powerful person. But I went "oops I will close my eyes and he will not
know I am not doing it." As a painter I'm very visual and the
visions started coming and along came this fellow George….incredible….umm
and not something I asked for nor expected. I mean it was just this totally
spontaneous thing. It impressed me because of the knowledge he had, the help he
gave me and as years began to go by I began to do this with my patients. I
experienced it is real, it works let's use it! The thing I didn't realize is
when you are sitting in a group of people you have a choice of who hears your
stories but when you put it in a book you don't have a choice of who reads the
book. A lot of people might think "ooh, he is nuts, isn't that crazy?"
I don't mean to say I'm more guarded now but if I feel something is appropriate
to write about or say I do so and I do not worry about the audience.
This is my life it is my experience but I realize how you
write it and how you share becomes important depending on the audience
Rhonda---"But "George" your guide is with you
everyday, right?"
Bernie---"Yeah, oh yeah I have so many people around me
now that I don't really talk about them. They include people who I have worked
with who have died and also deceased family members of patients who want to help
by guiding me so I call on them regularly. It is apart of my life, every morning
I know that's a part of my daily meditation , prayer, to be with them.
Rhonda---" I relate to what you are saying because I talk
to my "George's'" as well, my guides."
Bernie---"I think we all have them."
Rhonda---"Well, I certainly think so, it is a matter of
allowing yourself to be open to help from other realms. If you are open and
receptive the help is there, it's that simple."
Bernie---"Again if you say that is a little crazy or a
mystery or a miracle…well…but if it works? You see I'm a practical person as a
physician and a surgeon and if something successful then why deny it!"
Rhonda---"Exactly!"
Bernie---"I saw that in the hospital too. If I gave a
lecture on it they might get upset with the lecture because it did not make
sense. They are not sure it is scientific, nobody taught them that. But if I
went my own way in the hospital doing it and it worked then everybody would join
in and do it as well because they are not against success. I saw this with the
nurses and the physicians' so the hospital would looked very different ten years
later. When new people came in, I use to laugh because they would say "Why
do you do it this way?" Nurses and physicians would simply answer " it is
our policy." They would never say Bernie Siegal said , or we were taught
this way, it was always "I don't know it's is just the way we do things
around here. Why? Because it works! Many patients would come to me and say
"It's wonderful here, I didn't have to take my clothes off or put on a
Johnny coat. You have music in the operating room and I love the way people talk
to
me on the way to and in the operating room. People in the hospital saw this
worked and the patients had less complications and left the hospital sooner .
So, it works so let's do it!
End of excerpt.
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